• Ivan Ganza replied to the topic Question on dullness in the forum Meditation 1 week, 2 days ago

    Greetings,

    In additon to the good advise you have received so far:

    I think you are doing the correct things and sounds like you are practicing well. The fact is we’ve had a habit of being dull, allowing dullness for a long period in our lives. In my experience it is partly like an deep ingrained habit.

    The only way to unlearn a habit is to…[Read more]

  • Hopefully the first post helped explain a little bit of the why.

    In terms of how to deal with it. In my experience, especially if this is happening off the cushion, the best thing (but not easy) is to do your best to GIVE SPACE to these mental states. Let them play out and do what they do.

    Let it come, let it be, let it go.

    This as all…[Read more]

  • I recently wrote this reply to someone on Reddit, I think it may be of help to you:

    In my experience these are signs of progress. Hitting the aversion to meditation means you are doing well. Clearly a large group of sub-minds have gotten on board with your intention to meditate — and if that is truly the case — I suspect for many people it…[Read more]

  • It may be of help to define “Fully Enlightened”

    We can only use this term loosely and not get too involved with it. I think that “Fourth Path” is what we usually think about when we talk about someone being “Fully Enlightened”.

    I think when jimisommer is using the term, he may be thinking about a Fourth Path Arahat?

    There are plenty of cases…[Read more]

  • In my understanding, when we talk about craving and desire, we are talking about craving and desire that is rooted in the belief in a self, in the idea and assumption of being a separate self.

    This is not referring to biological needs and such.

    The context of craving is related to craving that is a link in the production of suffering (the…[Read more]

  • >If, however, you mean that there just will be no “reaction” to the news, I’ll just keep sipping coffee and breathing or whatever, that obviously seems very undesirable (I would consider that zombie behaviour).

    What you are describing seems like “indifference”, total indifference to whatever occurs. That is certainly NOT desirable, and not the t…[Read more]

  • Greetings,

    I’ve been reading and re-reading your post, you hit on some really deep issues that may take quite a while to unpack.

    Honestly — I still highly suggest listening to the full retreat I posted above — it is really golden and amazing — may help to give you a bit of confidence and answer many of your questions. I’ve lost track of how…[Read more]

  • Perhaps a poem:

    Face Everything, Let Go, and Attain Stability (Zen Poem):

    “Vast and far-reaching without boundary, secluded and pure, manifesting light, this spirit is without obstruction. Its brightness does not shine out but can be called empty and inherently radiant. Its bright-ness, inherently purifying, transcends casual conditions beyond…[Read more]

  • Hi Cheese,

    Thanks for being so clear in your post.

    It is very difficult to understand conceptually. You will not become a robot or uncaring to your family (there may or may not be challenges as you adjust though).

    Culadasa has some good talks somewhere where he gets deep into this very thing you posted about. You may find this talked about in…[Read more]

  • Hi Manjushree,

    I wanted to add; you may find these sensations a bit strange, uncomfortable, fascinating, distracting, enjoyable, even annoying at times — that all will pass in time. it is usually a bit uncomfortable and unsettling at first.

    Hope you keep going 😉

    Cheers,
    -Ivan/

    (DT Teacher in Training)

  • Hi Samuel,

    Can you elaborate on the context of your question — Are you thinking this is applicable to the domain of meditation practice? Or more for example related to personal improvement and betterment?

    Thanks,
    -Ivan/

    (DT Teacher in Training)

  • In answer to your question:

    In 4th Jhana: the way attention is functioning would be more comparable to the first paragraph. In a deep 4th Jhana, there would be no moments of attention being generated, and we perhaps could think of this as being way down deep, we are in a still place, far from all the activity at the surface.

    In terms of the…[Read more]

  • Are you wondering about these distinctions mostly from a theoretical basis?

    Experience, over, over, over and over again is the best teacher. Then what others have wrote becomes more clear, and you can start to see why one person writes this way, and another that way.

    Anything we try to describe and pin down with a nice tidy concept eventually…[Read more]

  • I really like the analogy of the mountain peaks.

    The example I usually think of is that of trying to drive to a destination using an old-style map. (From the days when we actually still used maps rather than google maps…)

    Anyhow, TMI is a very good map. But it is not the terrain. You can see roughly where you need to go, and have some…[Read more]

  • Sitting will not always be comfortable, especially at beginning stages. Those feelings of discomfort are most likely related to a majority of sub-minds not being onboard with your intention to sit and meditate.

    How can you deal with it?

    If you energize the discomfort by thinking of it as a hurdle and resisting it, the effect is to energize the…[Read more]

  • Sitting will not always be comfortable, especially at beginning stages. Those feelings of discomfort are most likely related to a majority of sub-minds not being onboard with your intention to sit and meditate.

    How can you deal with it?

    If you energize the discomfort by thinking of it as a hurdle and resisting it, the effect is to energize the…[Read more]

  • Thanks for the details.

    So a couple of points.

    First off, I think Michael was right on the money, and I hope he will chime in again.

    It sounds like your expectations may be preventing your meditation practice from deepening. It is as if you plant your garden, water it, then the next day start digging up the soil to check if the plants have…[Read more]

  • Thanks for the details.

    So a couple of points.

    First off, I think Michael was right on the money, and I hope he will chime in again.

    It sounds like your expectations may be preventing your meditation practice from deepening. It is as if you plant your garden, water it, then the next day start digging up the soil to check if the plants have…[Read more]

  • In order for us to help you more effectively:

    Please describe 1) The precise steps you are doing when you sit down and 2) Your experience of the session as progresses

    We need to know the details of what is happening when you are sitting.

    Cheers,
    -Ivan/ (DT Teacher in Training)

  • Good points 😉

    If you have never been on retreat, best to test the waters with a 7 or 10 day retreat, before commit to a longer period such as a month.

    The person who decides about the month retreat will not be the person who experiences it.

    Retreat can be very beneficial but also extremely difficult when the deep inner stuff is dislodged.…[Read more]

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