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December 21, 2016 at 4:26 pm #1739
Mine started mid-November. And I’m looking at this darn dullness as a sign of progress – heck – we’ve made it to Stage 4 Alex! Lol.
Also, I had my first on-line meeting with Tucker Peck yesterday. It was good. He said something like that my sub-conscious might be trying to not let the nasty stuff come up – I’ve already had two ‘purification’ experiences – one was really intense and I got scared that I wouldn’t be able to cope – so that theory makes sense to me. Also, I THINK he said something around that I might be trying to concentrate too hard – I’m going to have a pen ready next time to take notes lol. Anyway, he said to ease up on myself a little, don’t worry too much about keeping the breath at the centre and have more compassion for myself.
I actually find easing up like that quite difficult – I soooooo WANT to concentrate on the breath and awareness lol. But I’m learning.
I’m going to try all your things also Alex. It sounds selfish, but I’m sort of glad I’ve got a companion in this – it’s just yicky lol. Good meditating to us both. XXX. 🙂
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December 21, 2016 at 1:26 pm #1737Alek – yesterday I tried easing up on things as you said. Also, I got up and did walking meditation for just a few minutes several times, as well as the clenching muscles thing. It worked! I was able to do an hour and a half! Instead of battling and giving up at 20 minutes or so. I’ve NEVER managed 90 minutes, so I’m really pleased that I can meditate through this bloody awful and tedious stage.
December 20, 2016 at 2:08 pm #1736Alex, not Alec. Sorry
December 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm #1735Me too Alek – it helps hugely to know this is normal. If I didn’t have the book and this community to know that, I might have given up on meditation as it’s almost impossible to get anywhere. I too seem to have been thrown backwards badly – I was making really good progress, now I can hardly meditate at all. I tried the whole body thing – it is a valid Culadasa technique I believe. It helped but didn’t solve. I’m going to now try the walking meditation. How long have you been experiencing it?
December 19, 2016 at 8:12 pm #1733I will do the walking – my dodgy knees will just have to cope. Funny thing is, I’ve taught myself to meditate in bed, lying down, before I sleep. As long as I go to bed half an hour early, I can meditate just fine. It was really difficult when I first tried, but now it’s good. And even now, with the strong dullness, if I go to bed early, I can meditate without going to sleep.
I know you can’t guarantee the time it takes, just getting one person’s timeframe helps though – I can certainly handle months. Thanks again Junot C.
December 19, 2016 at 6:34 pm #1731And I will try the spine straightening too! 🙂
December 19, 2016 at 6:33 pm #1730Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou Junot C. 3 months? I can do that. XXXX
December 19, 2016 at 6:21 pm #1728I can see why monks in monasteries used to whack their students for falling asleep lol. That would work I’m sure lol. I feel like whacking myself! Aaaargh!
December 19, 2016 at 6:19 pm #1727Hi B Lejon – it really is incredibly tedious and frustrating yes? Lolol.
Punching the air above my head – like you see boxers on TV punching the air in front of them – I do it above my head. Just raising one arm, then the other, only ‘punching’. Lol. It actually works, but I’m not sure it’s a valid technique lol
December 19, 2016 at 4:09 pm #1725Thanks Ted – the hold my breath, clench up and release helps a lot at times – it’s my chief technique and often lasts for several minutes. But other times, the dullness begins straight away and nothing (except punching the air so far) seems to work. I will keep going, using standing and walking when it gets really bad. Gosh I’ll be glad when this part of the process is over lol. It’s very disheartening. Aaaaargh lol. How long did your fight last Ted?
December 19, 2016 at 3:08 pm #1723Actually, both standing and sitting DO work. But with dodgy knees (one is a total replacement), I try to limit both. But THANKYOU for replying. 🙂
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